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Guest

2006-03-12 22:21:55

Credits should not be given regardless, due to those people who would overclock their comps (or whatever) and chew through tons of WUs. That's wasted time, science and resources. Not to mention it's cheating.

huntster: BAM!ID: 57; Joined: 2006-05-10; Posts: 7; Credits: 211,248; World-rank: 475,884

2006-03-12 22:23:03

Oops, last message should be "Huntster @ O&O"

Guest

2006-03-12 22:32:59

I ignore credits. I do this for a good feeling, to know I'm helping others out of my generousity.

Guest

2006-03-12 23:55:43

@Huntster: As I said, PrimeGrid and Rosetta are the only two BOINC projects (I know) that grants 100% of the credits you actually cliam. No Cheating here! As per the science, both receive a bunch of successfuly crunched WUs, don't they?

Guest

2006-03-13 00:03:34

@K-K: I respect your motives. But then, why I find you in a place where it deals with credits, positions and stats if it wasn't for credits monitoring?

Guest

2006-03-13 01:07:41

@O&O That is because those projects only sends out 1 copy of a workunit, there is no checking or verifying against several other participants, it is still entirely possible to cheat on the credit

Guest

2006-03-13 02:28:37

overclocking is part of life. the only thing thats cheating about it is the fact that you are cheating the processor manufacturer out of the money you would have paid for a faster chip.

Guest

2006-03-13 04:06:53

how is overclocking cheating? if you take the risk to crash your cpu, you earned the higher credit you get.

Elektra*: BAM!ID: 317; Joined: 2006-05-14; Posts: 22; Credits: 13,840,154; World-rank: 44,546

2006-03-13 06:20:55

Seasonal Attribution Project (WWF-CPDN) - when willit be listet in the BOINCstats?

wizzszz: BAM!ID: 86; Joined: 2006-05-10; Posts: 205; Credits: 34,259; World-rank: 1,064,352

2006-03-13 07:02:27

@O&O: If you are so frustrated about people with faster computers and more luck with their WU, go to the forum, and discuss it there. It gets boring to see you write it over and over again!

Guest

2006-03-13 08:37:40

The reason for a quorum is that each machine computes differently. The reason a WU fails is usually a miscalculation - hence a quorum = accruate results. You may have just crunched 10hr, and got 0 due to the error. Even happens on PG with q = 1

Guest

2006-03-13 09:15:38

Overclocked machines may calculate wrong results because of theoverstrassed CPU. No problem for games, but well for science. Hence the quorum. Overclocking is not per se cheating, but may be in effect do just that.

wizzszz: BAM!ID: 86; Joined: 2006-05-10; Posts: 205; Credits: 34,259; World-rank: 1,064,352

2006-03-13 10:18:06

@Sänger: Overclocking isn't much more cheating than buying a faster machine! And everybody has broken WUs, so it is still fairly distributed. I still can't see any disadvantage for O&O

Guest

2006-03-13 14:05:02

You're missing the point. Overclocking is NOT the same as a faster PC. Faster machines are designed to go faster. The slower machine isn't, and that causes errors in the calculations. It isn't speed or credits that's at issue, it's accuracy of results.

Guest

2006-03-13 14:13:01

So to OC you CHANGE the design. Thus redesigning it to go faster. Last time I checked, my OC'd mashines were faster than w/o OC, why bother otherwise? I'ts a win-win. Don' fight it

PaulG1UK: BAM!ID: 451; Joined: 2006-05-20; Posts: 10; Credits: 108,665; World-rank: 658,909

2006-03-13 15:07:49

agrees with wizzszz. . . please continue in a forum

Guest

2006-03-13 15:44:21

@willy: you have the ok from hashclash for publishing stats

Guest

2006-03-13 16:25:07

I'm from South Africa. There does not seem to be any connection to the projects (*5) that I am connected to, even though is says online above. Any Help???

Guest

2006-03-13 19:43:05

Thanks amd. borg. I came right. Used a public proxy server.

HOLOTRONO: BAM!ID: 980; Joined: 2006-05-29; Posts: 34; Credits: 0; World-rank: 0

2006-03-13 20:50:30

the link in the status schedulers goes to a german magazine site!!! it is not hashclash!!! the right link is: 217. 160. 138. 71/wiki/index. php?title=HashClash hooray, xtreme is back again!!!

Grenadier: BAM!ID: 59; Joined: 2006-05-10; Posts: 255; Credits: 12,339,382; World-rank: 48,202

2006-03-13 21:24:42

Not sure what Holo is on, but the link to HashClash looks OK to me.

HOLOTRONO: BAM!ID: 980; Joined: 2006-05-29; Posts: 34; Credits: 0; World-rank: 0

2006-03-14 01:45:23

jo, now it works. . . fine!

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