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2008-03-31 16:57:35

Some weirdos set up this stunt:
http://www.lhcdefense.org/

From the press about it:
New York Times (registration may be needed)
Asking a Judge to Save the World, and Maybe a Whole Lot More
More fighting in Iraq. Somalia in chaos. People in this country can’t afford their mortgages and in some places now they can’t even afford rice.

None of this nor the rest of the grimness on the front page today will matter a bit, though, if two men pursuing a lawsuit in federal court in Hawaii turn out to be right. They think a giant particle accelerator that will begin smashing protons together outside Geneva this summer might produce a black hole or something else that will spell the end of the Earth — and maybe the universe.


For the german readers:
From Spiegel:
SCHWARZE LÖCHER IN GENF Angst vor Weltuntergang - Amerikaner klagt gegen Teilchenbeschleuniger
Walter Wagner hat Angst. Er fürchtet, dass Schwarze Löcher entstehen könnten, wenn im Herbst der Teilchenbeschleuniger LHC in Genf die Arbeit aufnimmt - und dass dies das Ende der Welt bedeutet. Das will der Amerikaner gerichtlich verhindern.
Grüße vom Sänger
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2008-03-31 17:28:53

Some weirdos set up this stunt:
http://www.lhcdefense.org/

...


What does it matter? He/they are in the U.S.A. while LHC is in the EU & Switzerland. The court they chose has no jurisdiction - just a way to squander money and waste his/their time.

Guest

2008-03-31 17:43:20



Website owned by "monterey bay perpetual wellness foundation", who I cannot find any record of. There are a lot of other 'businesses' at the registrants address though.

And Walter Wagner seems an interesting character ...

http://entropybound.blogspot.com/2008/03/walter-wagner-nuclear-physicist-crook.html

The use of Hotmail addresses is less than inspiring too.

I like the quote:

We expect to encounter expenses in excess of $100,000 in this action

Really? These cases usually cost upward of $5m. Perhaps he'd just be happy with the lesser amount for now

Al.
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2008-04-01 12:24:36

Some weirdos set up this stunt:
http://www.lhcdefense.org/


My first thought was that this is an April Fool's Day stunt. However, it's esoteric enough that it will only rankle a few BOINC users.

More likely, it's run by someone who is practicing the old American tradition of separating fools from their money. People from the US are accustomed to the idea that you can fix a problem by just throwing money at it, and not actually learning anything or taking any accountability. We would rather spend than think. Sites that are essentially, "Oh my Gawd! The boogeyman's coming to get you! GIVE US MONEY NOW!!!" are not that unusual. Just look through fad diet sites and see how many are, "The medical 'establishment' is trying to shut me down, so buy my stuff NOW!!!".

(I say this as someone from the USA. Born here, raised here, only left for a few brief trips to Canada.)

Most people from the US think the US courts are world law, and so would not see the most glaring flaw in this site's premise. The best the US court could do is make it illegal for CERN to operate the LHC on US soil.

Hmmm... Perhaps I'll start a trust fund that's open to donations, and people can send me money so I can watch to make sure CERN doesn't create a ravenous black hole that eats the planet. I could use a new computer....
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2008-04-01 13:47:59



Hmmm... Perhaps I'll start a trust fund that's open to donations, and people can send me money so I can watch to make sure CERN doesn't create a ravenous black hole that eats the planet. I could use a new computer....



Looks like LHC has been a success at creating a black hole for thousands of Boinc computers . . . .
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2008-04-01 14:01:33

Do we have a case if the LHC emits neutrinos or quarks (or any other particle, I'm not a physicist) and it hits a US citizen on US soil? We could force them to build some sort of a shield to protect innocent bystanders. I never asked to get hit by a neutrino and here some bozo is spewing them all over everyone!!

Guest

2008-04-01 18:49:53

I never asked to get hit by a neutrino and here some bozo is spewing them all over everyone!!


I'm about to launch a range of tinfoil helmets to counter such threats.

Thing is, I need some capital investment. I calculate that $100,000 should be enough to get started. Donations greatfully received. You know it makes sense.

Al.
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2008-04-01 19:00:26

Do we have a case if the LHC emits neutrinos or quarks (or any other particle, I'm not a physicist) and it hits a US citizen on US soil? We could force them to build some sort of a shield to protect innocent bystanders. I never asked to get hit by a neutrino and here some bozo is spewing them all over everyone!!



I know it is April Fools' Day in a large part of the planet but not all, so...

What would you do about cosmic background radiation and solar emissions?

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