Hello Willy,

Is in the XML anywhere the team credit amount, that reflects the new rules of 'just that credit achieved when in the team'?
Or do you have to calculate them from the member values, and therefor over- and underestimate them?

The question just popped up on my team board.

I hope (and guess) it's the first way, because otherwise the now banned team shopping will occur again

Team credit is extracted from the team XML file, and thus produced by the project. It is not calculated from the users in the BOINCstats DB.

Helemaal bedankt voor de snelle antwoord

Hello,

one of my team members just made this strange discovery:

He's with the same amount of credits in both his teams. He's a member of Seti.Germany for Einstein and Seti, but member of Die Nordlichter for CPDN, and has all of his credits in the combined team stats.

I havn't veryfied that yet, but I looked at my credits there, and all of them were in the ranking, although I joined Seti.Germany only after I reached 15K or 20K or so, I don't remember.

look here: [url=http://tinyurl.com/6vm93' target='_blank]http://tinyurl.com/6vm93[/url]

(www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_stats2.php?
pr=bo&st=200&to=100&or=&ts=30187&tp=86&tc=1&tl=42&pirates=76&einstein=49&tn=SETI.Germany)

Team credit in the combined stats is the sum of the credit the team has in the projects, again it's not the sum of the members in the team.

When a user is member of more then 1 team in different projects, his name will be in the team stats for all teams in the combined stats with all his combined credit. It has no influence on the amount of team-credit.

Hello and thanks for the quick reply.

Just to make it clear for me, I'll try to state it as I see this atm:

- Team Credits are extracted from XML for every single project.
- They are added for the competition between teams.
- For the competition within the teams the participants are rated with all of their credits, regardless where this was crunched.
- In the combined in-team competition every credit is used, even from projects where the participant isn't member of the team.
- Thus one can be at a good standing in several teams at the same time with the same credits.
- the single project in-team standings show only those who really crunch this project for this team.

I have not the faintest about the amount of work it will take to straighten this out, so only the projects crunched for the certain team will appear in the combined in-team competition stats.
I would nevertheless like it to be that way.

I'll have to look into this a bit to sort this out. It may be possible though.

It looks like bug or feature, it depends on point of view
Maybe a poll helps?

I'm still thinking about this :?

There is also another problem with user-credit within a team.

Let's say I get it right, and I only show the credit per user that user has in the project where he/she is a member of that team (read this a few time, you'll get it...): what if he'she switched teams? The XML files don't provide the info needed to see how much credit is earned during membership of the current team.

So I'll guess this will always be a problem.

I am not quite sure i understand what you mean as far as I am aware no project gives split credit for users that swap teams it is all accredited to the team that user is a currently a member of therefore if a user did swap teams their credit for that particular project would be assigned to their new team. this is how it appears in the projects own user/team rankings so presumably would swap to the new team in the exported xml. in the example i gave in a different post before you pointed me in the direction of this one

http://www.boincstats.com/forum/index.php?...st=0&#entry2485

the user who has 14000 eintein credits for our team shows as having 14000 on their website if he/she moved teams in einstein I would expect them to have 0 credits for our team regardless of the credits that has been accumilated while a member

The XML files provide no means to calculate how many credits a user has accumulated while a member of his current team. If he/she joins a team while having alread 10000 credits, then earns 5000 credits while a member of the team, the team then earns 5000 credits, not 10000 (at least, that is what the BOINC manual says). But the XML files do not reflect this.

In that case you are right and i bow to your superior knowledge having not read the boinc manuel.

I did transfer teams along time ago when i was only doing cpdn and it did seem to take all my credit with me certainly the cpdn website shows all my personal credit in the uk boinc team even though it was not all earned there

p.s this is a fantastic website please and many thanks for your prompt replys