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2011-07-07 09:44:31

Willy,

Didnt know how else to approach this ....

A test Application has gone wrong over at Aqua giving millions of credits per WU, the end result will be very large spikes on Aqua stats rippling across BOINCStats Tables & Graphs today if we not careful, vertually all of them, leaving the big spike(s) embedded for the next 60 days. Aqua Admins are not contactable at present, so we cant stop it at source. Emails have been left, they are GMT minus 7 hours. There are a couple of threads on the Aqua board showing this.

Is it possible - even advisable, I havent a clue, trying to grope for a temporary solution - to delay Aqua Daily update so Stats Tables are not contaminated, it will already be filtering through on the Interims. Maybe even delay Daily Update by a couple of hours to give time for Admins to get in and look at the problem around 1600+ GMT. How quickly it can be resolved, no idea, I suspect very quickly, but then there will be the stats xml to sort out. No idea how we can protect the other main stats sites.

Obviously I'm out of my comfort zone on this one - to say the least - bottom line is, Stats are going to get messed up big time, on the Daily Update Today, unless some kind of "defensive" action is taken. As to what that might be, or even if its possible at all - over to you ....

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2011-07-07 10:36:25

There is filter in the XML import which filters out too large credit gains, so we should be ok.
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2011-07-07 10:39:05

Okie Doke - thats a relief .... - Thanks Willy

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2011-07-07 14:28:02

BOINCstats Willy wrote:
There is filter in the XML import which filters out too large credit gains, so we should be ok.


I noticed big numbers already included in the incremental update.
Does this filter also works there?

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2011-07-07 14:35:08

Copycat-Digital wrote:
BOINCstats Willy wrote:
There is filter in the XML import which filters out too large credit gains, so we should be ok.


I noticed big numbers already included in the incremental update.
Does this filter also works there?



It should, but if the increase is not big enough (I have to take projects in to account which switch to GPU crunching) it will pass.
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2011-07-07 16:49:13

There was one - 14,640,927 credits - appeared to have got through on the Aqua table (look at world positions Aqua ranking 115), it may have a cumulative total from successive interims and not a one off download, but might be worth checking the filter just in case. There were dozens @tens of millions per WU so probably 115 is a one off circumstance, as it looks like the others were stopped. I suspect the admins will reverse this one, and others of lesser value in due course.

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2011-07-07 16:55:36

Zydor wrote:
There was one - 14,640,927 credits - appeared to have got through on the Aqua table (look at world positions Aqua ranking 115), it may have a cumulative total from successive interims and not a one off download, but might be worth checking the filter just in case. There were dozens @tens of millions per WU so probably 115 is a one off circumstance, as it looks like the others were stopped. I suspect the admins will reverse this one, and others of lesser value in due course.

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That' s mine & I posted it at their forum to be fixed
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2011-07-07 21:00:43
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Zydor wrote:
There was one - 14,640,927 credits - appeared to have got through on the Aqua table (look at world positions Aqua ranking 115), it may have a cumulative total from successive interims and not a one off download, but might be worth checking the filter just in case. There were dozens @tens of millions per WU so probably 115 is a one off circumstance, as it looks like the others were stopped. I suspect the admins will reverse this one, and others of lesser value in due course.

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Looks like there were some that got Billions in Credit & the Filter didn't catch them, AQUA needs to get their act together since this is the second time in recent exports that they have messed up. Makes one wonder how many Accounts never get fixed ???
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2011-07-15 01:35:44

Note -- it wasn't a test application which went out of whack, it was Aqua moving to more recent BOINC server code which (apparently) forces CreditNew on projects using the most recent BOINC server code. Well CreditNew was out of whack.

Aqua has subsequently stopped issuing work and then (today) did a full rollback to the June 19 numbers (tossing out some legit babies with the bathwater on the way).

The project is now set to start issuing new work which (they hope) awards reasonably accurate credit using an update to NewCredit.

If NewCredit has problems with Aqua work unit credits, it seems the approach will be -- user reports problem to project, project reports problem to BOINC developers. Now what isn't clear is what follows from that -- will the BOINC developers then manually adjust the project and user credits (Aqua says the credit numbers are all BOINC's turf at this point).

Seems not the best of approaches, but then centralized credit control does impose a fair amount of additional work on those imposing the control....
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2011-07-15 20:32:47

The Credit Rollback to the 19'th of June has been made & is reflected at the Free-DC Stat's Site. So it's up to Willy now if he wants to include the AQUA Project again ...
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