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2006-12-12 23:21:24




Can someone explain why it should be 2700+ but shows only 2100+ ?

Sorry if this has been answered before but was not in any of the latest titles
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2006-12-14 22:58:47

Do I need to make a donation to get an answer? If you look at the sig you see if you just add Spinhenge and Einstein rac's together it is 100's more than the Boinc total. Am I missing something here or do you not think this is a bug Thanks JR
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2006-12-14 23:26:32

Do I need to make a donation to get an answer?

Probably just patience is enough, but you could do the donation anyway

I don't know the answer, but I guess the combined RAC is calculated separately from the combined total history, which for some reason differs from summing the projects. Q: Are the project RACs as they are sent by the project, or are they calculated independently by BOINCstats?
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2006-12-14 23:47:55
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Do I need to make a donation to get an answer?

Probably just patience is enough, but you could do the donation anyway

I don't know the answer, but I guess the combined RAC is calculated separately from the combined total history, which for some reason differs from summing the projects. Q: Are the project RACs as they are sent by the project, or are they calculated independently by BOINCstats?


Hi PovAddict and thanks for the reply And I need to set up a paypal...or....does willy take us dollars in the mail?

That is exactly the rac that the projects export in xml so hence my quandry at willys compiler or the way the total rac is assembled.

I suppose someone could tell by adding up the projects to find willys total might tell which one(s) aren't being added but I don't have the time.

edit...maybe its Einstein missing now that I do a quick check
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2006-12-15 08:52:20

The RAC in the stats xml is based on the time a credit event last occured at the project prior to the generating of the dump. Appearently it is corrected (based on a time closer to the current time) in the total but not in the individual projects.
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2006-12-16 04:52:12
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The RAC in the stats xml is based on the time a credit event last occured at the project prior to the generating of the dump. Appearently it is corrected (based on a time closer to the current time) in the total but not in the individual projects.


In the last 40 days according to my charts on BoincStats my daily credit has been above my total credit on my sig 37 of those days....some substantially higher. Now I don't see this phenomena with other peoples BoincStats sigs. So what is the deal here?


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2006-12-16 08:44:54

I think Predictor is not all dead and finally updated their stats after weeks of asking to do so...RAC dropped to real value and now total RAC for all projects can finally match.

btw, I'm not sure if RAC can be called daily credit...
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2006-12-16 13:48:03

I think Predictor is not all dead and finally updated their stats after weeks of asking to do so...RAC dropped to real value and now total RAC for all projects can finally match.

btw, I'm not sure if RAC can be called daily credit...

Yeah, Predictor finally got the RAC re-calculated. HashClash needs the same, and also MalariaControl, I haven't crunched there for a month and still have 60 RAC...
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2006-12-17 20:00:47

I looked into this, but I can't find it yet. This only seems to happen with your account and it only misses Einstein.

Total RAC is calculated for all users in one go, not separately for a single user, so I'm a bit puzzled why this happens.

Solution will be postponed until the light goes on in my head.
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2006-12-18 05:06:44

I looked into this, but I can't find it yet. This only seems to happen with your account and it only misses Einstein.

Total RAC is calculated for all users in one go, not separately for a single user, so I'm a bit puzzled why this happens.

Solution will be postponed until the light goes on in my head.


Thanks Willy for validating I am not luny I hope the lightbulb goes on sooner than later

Can you give me a mailing address to donate to?
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2006-12-20 22:37:45
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Willy.... Its not Einstein as the numbers don't add up....In fact no total of any projects numbers correlate with the total and the more my Spinhenge credit goes up the more the total goes down now almost equalling Spinhenge alone....hope that lil analysis helps I have decided to attempt paypal this weekend seeing all the probs a foreign check can cause. The paypal link you give to US dollars appears to be labeled in it looks like Dutch...it sure would be nice to see it in English so I don't make a mistake....
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2006-12-21 05:52:19
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The paypal link you give to US dollars appears to be labeled in it looks like Dutch...it sure would be nice to see it in English so I don't make a mistake....


Argh, I hate PayPal.

All was in English but some time ago they introduced a Dutch version of their website. I was given the choice of keeping the English version or start using the Dutch version. I chose English, but they still changed a lot of pages to Dutch.

I'll see what I can do.

BTW: when you use the donation form on the fundraising page, the PayPal page is in English.
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2007-01-09 00:29:27

If my rac on my sig keeps going down as it has I will have a negative value soon

BTW I did donate paypal per your suggested link on the fundraising page and had no problems Willy
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2007-01-18 15:46:34

I still have the same bug (reported it months ago).

The RAC for the Sig is taken off "Projects Accumulated", which (somehow) is way too low.

Instead, the RAC based on "According to BOINCstats" should simply be used, as it's much closer to reality
(I see no use of the permanently incorrect "Projects accumulated" RAC anyway)
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2007-01-21 16:29:19

Thanks FalconFly for the reply as I was beginning to think I was the only 1 affected.
Sorry to hear it has been going on for you months longer than mine has.Did not notice your thread.

Funny that my rac started to not match after I joined Spinhenge (before that it matched like everyone else),and you don't belong to that project.....so willy must still be scratching his head...
Wonder how many are effected by this anomaly but don't use boincstats to know...
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2007-01-28 23:47:07

Since I don't know how the RAC used for the Sig is calculated, I can only speculate...

I see we both have Projects with Credit but 0 RAC, might be those may still be part of the Calculation (negative influencing it) in some way ?
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2007-02-03 09:54:31

The signatures now show "Average Credit according to BOINCstats" as RAC, instead of the RAC reported by the projects.

BOINC RAC may still be a little off as it's calculated on the fly.

Sigs are cached, it may take some time before your sig shows the new RAC.
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2007-02-04 12:47:41
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Willy - This may be a bit much, but would it be possible to allow the user to select which RAC figure is used in the signature? Either "According to BOINCstats" or "As Reported by the Projects". Perhaps you could add another sub-heading under "BOINCstats" in the "BOINC Account Manager" section. Or an option in the Sig URL.

Either way, thanks for the great site. Best regards!
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2007-02-04 13:52:44

Thanks Willy, good work!
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2007-02-05 14:34:39
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Prior to the end of last week
http://www.boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?cpid=90d71973945759344fcd2762972809d1
and
http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_667207.gif
Combine RAC were within a hand full of points of each other.
Since then the difference become >100.

Any clue as to what happened?
later
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2007-02-06 17:56:41

Willy - This may be a bit much, but would it be possible to allow the user to select which RAC figure is used in the signature? Either "According to BOINCstats" or "As Reported by the Projects". Perhaps you could add another sub-heading under "BOINCstats" in the "BOINC Account Manager" section. Or an option in the Sig URL.

Either way, thanks for the great site. Best regards!
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This may be true, but my true RAC is 1250, and according to BOINCStats, it is only 763. Having said that, it jumped to a whopping 771 today!
I can't understand a reason to post two different RACs. It only adds to the confusion.
Why can't we just have the true RAC reported by the projects please???

Neil.
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2007-02-06 18:15:03

This may be true, but my true RAC is 1250, and according to BOINCStats, it is only 763. Having said that, it jumped to a whopping 771 today!
I can't understand a reason to post two different RACs. It only adds to the confusion.
Why can't we just have the true RAC reported by the projects please???

Neil.

The RAC reported by projects isn't "true RAC"! If you stop crunching for a project, your RAC may stay stuck without going down if the project isn't running the update_stats task, which they should but some don't.
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2007-02-06 18:52:57
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Prior to the end of last week
http://www.boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?cpid=90d71973945759344fcd2762972809d1
and
http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_667207.gif
Combine RAC were within a hand full of points of each other.
Since then the difference become >100.

Any clue as to what happened?

All I can say is this is getting stranger and stranger... it's >260 diff increasing w/time
and
something looks real strange on the sig.
I realize the sig RAC isn't additive(?) but it still looks strange.

No changes were made/ nothing got 'hung up' from the middle of last week?


A
later
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2007-02-09 09:06:30
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The signatures now show "Average Credit according to BOINCstats" as RAC, instead of the RAC reported by the projects.



The RAC (Average Credit according to BOINCstats) additon of my two (Spinhenge-) hosts is wrong.

BAM ID: 18473, Name: P4-D640ad3400, Average Credit according to BOINCstats: ~580
This is correct!

http://de.boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=spinhenge&id=433



BAM ID: 21449, Name: C2-QUAD-ad3500, Average Credit according to BOINCstats: ~1960
This is correct!

http://de.boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=spinhenge&id=21192



Additon of both hosts (used in sig): Average Credit according to BOINCstats: ~1752
This is not correct! Should be: ~2540

http://de.boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=spinhenge&id=233

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2007-04-08 19:06:11

Now even the Boincstats rac doesn't add up either its off by approx 100rac...why does your compilers have such trouble with simple addition? At least the bs rac is much closer to the real total than the project combined numbers you have put out.Other stats sites btw don't have this bug
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