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2009-01-08 20:09:36

BAM! can find your account (if you used the same username password) and can attach your hosts to WCG (as it doesn't WCG for that). Anything else doesn't work.
Please do not PM, IM or email me for support (they will go unread/ignored). Use the forum for support.
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2009-01-08 20:14:38
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stopped before screwing it up.........!

You hit the worst day to try to get an account on WCG.
See the two messages below yours.

BTW: their Nutricious Rice subproject runs easily on a lappy with atm a fixed duration time of 10 hours.
After restart of the new servers they will reduce the time to 8 hours again.

Cheers
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2009-01-08 20:49:01

"....worst day to start on WCG"

yes, I know, that's why I waited till the server switch day to post my question - by the time a few answers come in hopefully things will have settled down...
_

8-10hrs is a little long - though depends on wu turnaround deadline. as I said that host is not on for long periods and I have to manage the account from a distance. I don't believe in trashing loads of wus and annoying any wingmen if quorum>1.
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2009-01-08 22:01:13
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... as I said that host is not on for long periods and I have to manage the account from a distance.

These projects have WUs that take about 15min or less if only the indicated applications are enabled:

  • IBERCIVIS (Materiales16, Materiales24)
  • Malaria (Map Predictor)
  • PrimeGrid (TPS, PPS)
  • WEP M+2
  • Virtual Prairie
  • QCN


However, those in italics may run dry frequently.

HTH

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2009-01-08 22:02:49
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WCG Nutricious Rice for the World project has a deadline of 12 days. Quorum is 19, but already granted when 10 valid results are returned.
Sometimes they give rush tasks with a deadline of 2.4 days for reliable and quick returning clients.
But your lappy is more off then on, I understood, so no rush tasks for your PC.
When running 24/7 you can avoid getting rushtasks by taking a cache of 1 day, so that you will not be seen as a quick returner.
Another advantage is that that project has regular work saving checkpoints.
As often as your period in seconds as you want write to disk. Default 60 seconds.

Just for your info.
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2009-01-09 01:42:17

WCG Rice has a Quorum of 19? That seems a little excessive, to the point of wasting resources.
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2009-01-09 08:31:27

WCG Rice has a Quorum of 19? That seems a little excessive, to the point of wasting resources.

The 19 tasks for NRftW are not full copies. They are all used.
For other WCG subprojects you have other quorums:
E.g. Help Conquer Cancer: quorum 2, Fight Aids@Home: quorum 1.
Have a look on their very extended FAQ when the new WCG-servers in Toronto have made their maiden start and are part of Crunching family
When everything is going fine, that will be today or tomorrow.
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2009-01-09 15:07:07

@CP: thanks, well mentioned about the regular checkpoints as without them that can add a noticeable overhead if a machine is only on for
short periods. the quorum/IR sounds rather high - hope they are all necessary! (ah, seen your later comment now)

does anyone else recall how large are the work units on the rest of the WCG sub-projects?? I found a support page for the Clean Energy
project and it seems those wus are too long for us.
_

@Augustine: those alpha projects would be ok on my pc here but a production or stable beta one is mucher safer; the good thing about
malaria was that it chugged away happily for over a year with hardly any problems at all.
I also tend to prefer physics, biology & climate projects to number theory/yeti-type ones. I could of course cut my Rosetta resource share here at home and run it over on the distant pc using the minimum duration setting instead - it's just I'm getting a bit bored with Rosie...

(sorry slow to respond - I had to retype today after the forum lost my reply)
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2009-01-09 15:24:29

@Augustine: those alpha projects would be ok on my pc here but a production or stable beta one is mucher safer; the good thing about
malaria was that it chugged away happily for over a year with hardly any problems at all.
I also tend to prefer physics, biology & climate projects to number theory/yeti-type ones. I could of course cut my Rosetta resource share here at home and run it over on the distant pc using the minimum duration setting instead - it's just I'm getting a bit bored with Rosie...

IBERCIVIS is about physics and is a production project.

QCN is about geo-sciences and is pretty good for certain laptops with built-in accelerometers.

I set Rosetta to run for 1h, but that's too long for those systems of mine. I tried to hack the options to run for 15min, but the WUs would crash or not validate, so it was not an option.

HTH
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2009-01-09 15:56:32
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@CP: thanks, well mentioned about the regular checkpoints as without them that can add a noticeable overhead if a machine is only on for
short periods. the quorum/IR sounds rather high - hope they are all necessary! (ah, seen your later comment now)

does anyone else recall how large are the work units on the rest of the WCG sub-projects?? I found a support page for the Clean Energy
project and it seems those wus are too long for us.

The other WCG-projects lasts between 6 and 10 hours depending on your PC-speed.
Their checkpoints has larger intervals; up to half an hour.
The Clean Energy subproject started about 5 weeks ago. The researchers are still investigating unexpected occuring bugs. And their runtimes vary from short to several days. I cannot recommend CEP atm.
For closing down your machine, you could consider not to shutdown, but go for standby/hibernation with leaving your applications in memory on, what's an advanced disk- and memory option of Boinc Manager. After starting up your lappy again, crunching goes on where you left it without loss of crunching time.
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2009-01-09 19:57:05

thnx@CP: I'll bear in mind stand-by (already have set 'keep boinc in memory'; but don't think hibernate works properly) and avoid CEP.
I'll go and create an account first, and see if they ready for new account sign-ups.
_

@Aug.: there's a good reason why I was asking here on the WCG thread, it's much easier to explain the benefit of a health/development project to the remote pc's octogenarian owner than more obscure projects. I don't see QCN shown here on boincstats and you're a bit optimistic about the available hardware; Ibercivis is also listed as an alpha even if it deserves uprating, I don't quite have the patience to plough thru the sub-project listings in spanish - I can do docking&folding elsewhere, materials and nano are for chemistry-fans and I have rather complicated views on fusion power. I can't get into the message boards, I guess they are in spanish too.

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2009-01-12 17:16:22

Because of problems the sub-WCG Clean Energy Project has temporarily stopped distributing WU's.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=24075

Anyone with CEP tasks running for longer time without making progress is advised to abort that task.
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2009-01-17 12:25:41
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Hi all,
will it be possible to connect to WCG via Boincstats again (not to create an account, just to get credits shown)?
I signed in to WCG recently across their site, already crunching there.
But the sign-in page of boincstats says no response from project. just asmall glitch or a long-time issue?

best regards

thorsten
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2009-01-17 13:49:12



thorsten:


Give it about 3 days or so for these issues to work themselves out.


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2009-01-24 13:35:37

I think the 3 days are MORE than over now

Any love on this one, I need to get WCG connected to my BAM since without it im having a hardtime crunching

-Greets Wiaf
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2009-03-14 13:50:30

Welcome to the Help Fight Childhood Cancer project.


The Help Fight Childhood Cancer comes to you from the Chiba Cancer Center Research Institute, which is affiliated to Chiba University, located in Chiba prefecture, Japan.

As the name of the project implies, the focus of this project is to try to find novel drugs to treat childhood cancers, namely neuroblastoma.

Neuroblastoma is one of the most frequently occurring solid tumors in children, especially in the first two years of their life, and its clinical outcome is still very poor. With your help, we hope to do the initial research which could result in discoveries that could lead to the development of novel drugs to treat these complex pediatric tumors.

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2009-03-19 02:19:25

WCG sign up is not working for me. I get the same "no response from project" as formulaman. Any ideas? I have a existing WCG account with quite a few hours I would like to use with BAM and BONIC. (I found WCG and started with them long before I found BONIC on FLOSS and all the other cool things to do here)

-Klint
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2009-03-31 05:30:31

@Klint:
if you have an account and already use boinc there should be no problem? here is what i did:
-manually created an account on WGC
-manually connected WCG-Project on one of my boinc-machines
waited few days, then the credits shown up in boincstats and i was also ready to connect other clients to WCG via bam?

regards, thorsten
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2009-04-26 23:36:35


Clean Energy for a Smarter Planet

World Community Grid teams up with Harvard's Clean Energy Project to find the next generation of organic solar cell materials and develop more affordable solar energy technology for everyone. Learn how your computer's unused processing power can help with this important quest.



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2009-05-05 16:43:46





New Project at WCG: Influenza Antiviral Drug Search


Mission:


The mission of the Influenza Antiviral Drug Search project is to find new drugs that can stop the spread of an influenza infection in the body. The research will specifically address the influenza strains that have become drug resistant as well as new strains that are appearing.

Identifying the chemical compounds that are the best candidates will accelerate the efforts to develop treatments that would be useful in managing seasonal influenza outbreaks, and future influenza epidemics and even pandemics.


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2009-05-07 01:54:55

IBM and the University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB ) launched an effort using IBM's World Community Grid "virtual supercomputer" to allow laboratory tests on drug candidates for drug-resistant influenza strains and new strains, such as H1N1, in less than a month.

Researchers at the University of Texas Medical Branch will use World Community Grid to identify the chemical compounds most likely to stop the spread of the influenza viruses and begin testing these under laboratory conditions. The computational work adds up to thousands of years of computer time which will be compressed into just months using World Community Grid. As many as 10% of the drug candidates identified by calculations on World Community Grid are likely to show antiviral activity in the laboratory and move to further testing.

According to the researchers, without access to World Community Grid's virtual super computing power, the search for drug candidates would take a prohibitive amount of time and laboratory testing. Yet, over the next several months and years, researchers say they hope to identify candidates for clinical tests. The University of Texas researchers are currently using the power of World Community Grid on research projects involving dengue fever and West Nile diseases.



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2009-07-07 23:44:10



IBM’s investment in World Community Grid has provided research scientists with over 252,000 years of computer run-time at no cost, and delivered over 290 million research results since 2004. It enables research which would not otherwise be possible because of the time it would take for the calculations to run on the scientist’s own computers. As a result scientists can focus on clinical work to develop the real world applications as opposed to IT, and by significantly accelerating research, develop new approaches and move more quickly into subsequent phases of testing.

More than 400 organisations are official partners of the WCG, and many thousands more teams have formed through the site. World Community Grid provides public and community organisations such as UNICEF, United Way and Aids Action Committee with a resource to generate public awareness and engagement around their own key issues. It also provides commercial organisations with another means for them and their employees to contribute to a variety of social issues. Organisations such as BankInter, Serco and Ogilvy are partners on the Grid.

For individuals, World Community Grid helps translate interest into awareness and engagement and promotes volunteerism. This collaborative technology enables people to contribute, altruistically or for deeper personal reasons. This is evidenced by the 200-250 new members who join each day, and by the level of dialogue IBM sees in this online community.



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2009-07-08 20:31:33

Just thought I would throw this out there so that anyone interested in bagging milestones for projects before it's too late is informed

3 projects will be ending in the near future at WCG.

Note: This is a rough estimate based on current crunching rates, not a precise date for the end of the projects.

ADP = Average Daily Progress (7 day running average)
DtCaCR = Days to Completion at Current Rate

Clean Energy Project
Complete: 64.84% ADP: 0.302%
DtCaCR: 116

Discovering Dengue Drugs Together
Complete: 85.5% ADP: 0.123%
DtCaCR: 118

Nutritious Rice for the World
Complete: 64.18% ADP: 0.153%
DtCaCR: 234

Help Fight Childhood Cancer
Complete: 15.50% ADP: 0.133%
DtCaCR: 635

Influenza Antiviral Drug Search
Complete: 8.76% ADP: 0.137%
DtCaCR: 666

Fight Aids At Home
Complete: 64.71% ADP: 0.050%
DtCaCR: 706

Human Proteome Folding Phase 2
Complete: 60.59% ADP: 0.055%
DtCaCR: 717

Help Conquer Cancer
Complete: 29.60% ADP: 0.035%
DtCaCR: 2011

Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy Phase 2
Complete: 0.45% ADP: 0.007%
DtCaCR: 14,221
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2009-07-23 16:22:47




25 Things You Might Not Know About IBM


IBM, also known as Big Blue, is as big and distributed as any company in the IT industry. In fact, you could say IBM is the New York City of technology companies. Huge. Diverse. Proud to call itself No. 1, though not everyone may agree.

And just as the Big Apple often sets trends for the rest of the country, Big Blue has a history of calling plays for the tech market.

These days, IBM is heavily promoting its Smarter Planet initiative to add a layer of intelligence to the basic processes that run today’s world, including roads, water and power. It’s just the latest milestone for the 98-year-old company. Here is a list of things you just might not know about IBM.


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2009-08-11 12:06:05


Discovery - Video

Ram Samudrala and Michal Guerguin discuss the World Community Grid to study rice protein structures.


See also:


Using Your Computer to Grow More Nutritious Rice for a Hungry World

Computational biologists use a powerful distributed computing network to research rice genome for increased yields of more nourishing rice varieties

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